Comments on: The Mind’s Eye http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/ A discussion of modern design from the Northwest Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:52:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Josiah http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1995 Josiah Fri, 08 Jan 2010 04:28:23 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1995 Ok gents, here is a lil something to inspire your "minds eye." Amazing video done solely with CGI that is architecturally stunning - http://vimeo.com/7809605?hd=1 Ok gents, here is a lil something to inspire your “minds eye.” Amazing video done solely with CGI that is architecturally stunning –

http://vimeo.com/7809605?hd=1

]]> By: Olda Zinke http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1988 Olda Zinke Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:10:24 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1988 @ TDI. and anyone willing to enlighten me. The mind's eye stands for the ability to visualize. The creation of a photo realistic drawing requires the ability to visualize. If the issue is the balance between the mind's eye and a photo realistic drawing when used as tools of presentation I fail to see an issue here. The mind's eye by definition is not a tool of presentation. Olda @ TDI. and anyone willing to enlighten me.
The mind’s eye stands for the ability to visualize.
The creation of a photo realistic drawing requires the ability to visualize.
If the issue is the balance between the mind’s eye and a photo realistic drawing when used as tools of presentation I fail to see an issue here.
The mind’s eye by definition is not a tool of presentation.
Olda

]]> By: Paul http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1941 Paul Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:16:29 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1941 In the interests of historical accuracy the illustration of Frank Lloyd Wright's Unity temple must be credited to Marion Mahony Griffin. In the interests of historical accuracy the illustration of Frank Lloyd Wright’s Unity temple must be credited to Marion Mahony Griffin.

]]> By: Mike D. http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1935 Mike D. Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:42:19 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1935 Build said: "We put our efforts into generating documents that are true working drawings, communicating clearly with the trades, keeping on budget, keeping to a schedule, etc." I should mention that I found that to be absolutely true in working with Build. When I was going through the process of <a href="http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/archive/2009/06/30/to-gc-or-not-to-gc/" rel="nofollow">deciding whether or not to use a G.C.</a>, both G.C.s I presented Build's drawings to said they were the most detailed and complete architectural drawings they had ever seen. They said it as though they were used to receiving drawings that had plenty of ambiguity or unfinished construction details, whereas Build's left nothing open for interpretation/corner-cutting/screwing-up. So as something said above, it's not that Build is not into technology or completeness... it's just the photo-realistic modeling that is not part of their process at this point in time. Build said: “We put our efforts into generating documents that are true working drawings, communicating clearly with the trades, keeping on budget, keeping to a schedule, etc.”

I should mention that I found that to be absolutely true in working with Build. When I was going through the process of deciding whether or not to use a G.C., both G.C.s I presented Build’s drawings to said they were the most detailed and complete architectural drawings they had ever seen. They said it as though they were used to receiving drawings that had plenty of ambiguity or unfinished construction details, whereas Build’s left nothing open for interpretation/corner-cutting/screwing-up. So as something said above, it’s not that Build is not into technology or completeness… it’s just the photo-realistic modeling that is not part of their process at this point in time.

]]> By: TDI http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1934 TDI Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:51:53 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1934 @ Olda - I don't think the issue is whether or not to employ digital modeling. They've been clear about using digital modeling to supplement the mind's eye. The issue is whether or not to go the full distance of photo-realism with the image. @ Olda – I don’t think the issue is whether or not to employ digital modeling. They’ve been clear about using digital modeling to supplement the mind’s eye. The issue is whether or not to go the full distance of photo-realism with the image.

]]> By: Olda Zinke http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1933 Olda Zinke Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:40:25 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1933 note: I would like to add to my previous contribution if perhaps needlessly that a program I am describing will allow for placing of furniture, accessories and human mannequins throughout the house and its surroundings to give the client and the designer sense of scale and proportions. Olda note:
I would like to add to my previous contribution if perhaps needlessly that a program I am describing will allow for placing of furniture, accessories and human mannequins throughout the house and its surroundings to give the client and the designer sense of scale and proportions.
Olda

]]> By: Weekly Town Crier http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1931 Weekly Town Crier Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:31:22 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1931 [...] Build Blog tells the story of the mind eye. [...] [...] Build Blog tells the story of the mind eye. [...]

]]> By: Olda Zinke http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1930 Olda Zinke Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:29:05 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1930 "When architecture is successful there is mystery to it, there is an element of pleasant surprise in the finished product. And while it can’t be drawn, rendered or mocked up, these qualities can be constructed in the mind’s eye." A dose of mysticism here? "It is some fundamental certainty that a noble soul has about itself, something that cannot to be sought, nor found, nor perhaps lost.... The noble soul has reverence for itself." Nietzsche. Who's on first. No that is not Nietzsche that is Abbot and Costello. The process of designing a house for a client will most benefit from the use of an integrated solid modeling computer design program. Such a program will allow the designer to begin with a conceptual sketch/model, seamlessly progress to a stage where the client feels comfortable about signing a contract and continue until the last details such as placing the wiring and utility routes are resolved thus avoiding/minimizing interferences and omissions before the beginning of any physical work. Should there be a call for a change/s during construction, those can be then first executed virtually while crosschecking for any possible domino effect. Not to worry, such a program will not hinder the "mind's eye" in the slightest it is only a precise tool and very obedient one at that if mastered. It will however bring transparency to the process, it will show the client what he/she will be getting, the crafts people what they will be building, be instrumental in creating a list of materials and supplies, time estimate and perhaps most importantly it will allow the designer to see what he/she is designing. To mystery in architecture and to an element of pleasant surprise I am tempted to say - my ass. I won't though since I am working on my graces. Happy New Year Olda “When architecture is successful there is mystery to it, there is an element of pleasant surprise in the finished product.
And while it can’t be drawn, rendered or mocked up, these qualities can be constructed in the mind’s eye.”
A dose of mysticism here?
“It is some fundamental certainty that a noble soul has about itself, something that cannot to be sought, nor found, nor perhaps lost…. The noble soul has reverence for itself.” Nietzsche.
Who’s on first. No that is not Nietzsche that is Abbot and Costello.
The process of designing a house for a client will most benefit from the use of an integrated solid modeling computer design program. Such a program will allow the designer to begin with a conceptual sketch/model, seamlessly progress to a stage where the client feels comfortable about signing a contract and continue until the last details such as placing the wiring and utility routes are resolved thus avoiding/minimizing interferences and omissions before the beginning of any physical work. Should there be a call for a change/s during construction, those can be then first executed virtually while crosschecking for any possible domino effect. Not to worry, such a program will not hinder the “mind’s eye” in the slightest it is only a precise tool and very obedient one at that if mastered. It will however bring transparency to the process, it will show the client what he/she will be getting, the crafts people what they will be building, be instrumental in creating a list of materials and supplies, time estimate and perhaps most importantly it will allow the designer to see what he/she is designing.
To mystery in architecture and to an element of pleasant surprise I am tempted to say – my ass. I won’t though since I am working on my graces.
Happy New Year Olda

]]> By: Lou M. http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1929 Lou M. Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:07:20 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1929 For reference, <a href="http://www.oskaarchitects.com/Projects/1391/Maxon-House" rel="nofollow">http://www.oskaarchitects.com/Projects/1391/Maxon-House</a> For reference, http://www.oskaarchitects.com/Projects/1391/Maxon-House

]]> By: Lou M. http://blog.buildllc.com/2009/12/the-minds-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-1928 Lou M. Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:01:15 +0000 http://blog.buildllc.com/?p=5535#comment-1928 I'm in a similar spot to Mike D. although not a client of Build am in the process of having a house custom designed by an architect. I too, am also in the creative profession and use the digital tools widely adopted by our industry (indesign, photoshop, illusrator, final cut pro, etc.). Maybe I'm old school (is that possible at 35yo?) but the art of architecture was a draw for me in committing dollars to a project of this scope. Architectural models (who doesn't love them) and hand-drawn renderings are beautiful to me. I think completely photo-realistic renderings of an object not yet built sort of make something custom and unique into a commodity. Again, my take. In an age of technology and instant everything is there something to be said for vision, for the "mind's eye"? For trusting and letting the architect do what they are trained to do? My two cents. I’m in a similar spot to Mike D. although not a client of Build am in the process of having a house custom designed by an architect. I too, am also in the creative profession and use the digital tools widely adopted by our industry (indesign, photoshop, illusrator, final cut pro, etc.). Maybe I’m old school (is that possible at 35yo?) but the art of architecture was a draw for me in committing dollars to a project of this scope. Architectural models (who doesn’t love them) and hand-drawn renderings are beautiful to me. I think completely photo-realistic renderings of an object not yet built sort of make something custom and unique into a commodity. Again, my take. In an age of technology and instant everything is there something to be said for vision, for the “mind’s eye”? For trusting and letting the architect do what they are trained to do? My two cents.

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